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April 27, 2007 at 20:16:37

GRAVEL REFUSES TO GROVEL / WINS FIRST DEBATE

by Allen L Roland

http://www.robkall.com


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"The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie. One word of truth outweighs the world.": Alexander Solzhenitsyn (1918- ) Russian writer, Soviet dissident, Nobel Prize for Literature 1970 / imprisoned for 8 years for criticizing Stalin in a personal letter .

Just as I was beginning to nod off during the first Democratic debate ~ lulled to sleep by careful, posturing, groveling candidates beholden to AIPAC and the Military/Industrial complex ~ Mike Gravel woke me up with his wit, authenticity and seeming ability to sense what Americans really wanted to hear ~ the truth and righteous anger over a badly managed war, occupation and economy.

Take a look at Gravel's progressive positions on these issues ~

While all the other candidates were being careful ~ Gravel was being real and, in the process he won the audience and the debate ( if that's what you want to call it )

I especially enjoyed his answer when asked about the three most important enemies of the United States ~

GRAVEL: " We have no important enemies. What we need to do is to begin to deal with the rest of the world as equals, and we don't do that. We spend more as a nation on defense than all the rest of the world put together.
 

Who are we afraid of? Who are you afraid of, Brian? I'm not.
 

And Iraq has never been a threat to us. We invaded them. I mean, it is unbelievable. The military-industrial complex not only controls our government lock, stock and barrel but they control our culture. "
 

Wow !! That's when I really woke up ~ My God, someone is finally telling the truth and its a Presidential candidate on National Television ~ Am I dreaming ? I pinched myself twice and, sure enough, I was awake and witnessing something quite special in this age of soundbites and disingenuous political sloganing ~ a politician telling the truth !

Even the New York Times caught the Gravel moment and called him,The Long Shot who made short shrift of his Rivals .

Read and enjoy ~

Allen L Roland       http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2007/04/27.html
 

A Long Shot Who Made Short Shrift of His Rivals

April 27, 2007
By Mark Leibovich NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/us/politics/27scene.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

ORANGEBURG, S.C., April 26 — Every field of candidates needs, for lack of a better term, comic relief — for the sake of keeping things interesting and, if everybody is lucky, for making the other smoothies on stage a little uncomfortable.

And at Thursday night’s Democratic debate, that role was played to all its glory by former Senator Mike Gravel, an Alaskan and onetime New York City cabdriver who embraced the role of scolding elder statesman to the ambitious, but more guarded, youngsters by his side.

Mr. Gravel was the first candidate to wander on stage, by himself, a little before 7 p.m. “Who’s that?” an audience member asked aloud. He largely eschewed the postdebate handshake, moped around for a few minutes and then headed off. “I’m not into those little niceties,” he said later.

In between, if Mr. Gravel, 77, did not steal the show, he certainly stole some of the limited sound-bite pie.

¶He proposed not just that the United States leave Iraq, but also that Congress enact a law that would make it a felony to stay there.

¶He said that some of his fellow Democratic candidates “frighten me” and that Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. had “a certain arrogance.”

¶He declared, at one point, that the United States had “no important enemies” and turned the questions back to the moderator, Brian Williams of NBC. “Who are we afraid of?” he asked. “Who are you afraid of, Brian?”

¶He said Osama bin Laden was so happy that the United States invaded Iraq “he must have been rolling in his blankets.”

It is not clear exactly what the Osama-in-blankets line meant, but like most things that rambled from the busy lips of Mr. Gravel, it left many audience members rolling in the aisles. He served as a kind of cranky uncle in the solemn field of well-barbered, sound-bite practitioners with whom he shared the stage, joining the other long shot, Representative Dennis J. Kucinich, in berating the others as being too cautious in trying to get troops out of Iraq.

While most of his fellow candidates were content to chuckle at Mr. Gravel’s meanderings and not engage him, he could be relentless to a point where his stagemates could not resist. For instance, what was the poor Senator Barack Obama to do when Mr. Gravel keep poking at him, saying, “Tell me, Barack. Who — Barack, who’s — who do you want to nuke?”

“I’m not planning to nuke anyone right now, Mike; I promise you,” Mr. Obama reassured him.

“Good, good,” Mr. Gravel replied, satisfied, for now. “We’re safe then for a while.”

As with any such long-shot candidate, Mr. Gravel faces recurring questions about why he is here, and whether he is serious about winning the Democratic presidential nomination nearly a quarter-century after Alaskans voted him out of the Senate . Mr. Williams asked him as much, recalling that Mr. Gravel recently said it did not matter if he was elected president or not.

Mr. Gravel said he had made that statement before he had the chance to stand with the other candidates a few times. “It’s like going into the Senate,” he said. “You know the first time you get there you’re all excited — ‘My God, how did I ever get here?’ And then, about six months later, you say, ‘How the hell did the rest of them get here?’ ”

After the debate, Mr. Gravel did his own spinning in the spin room, delivering an entire interview in French with a Canadian television reporter. He poked his finger into the chest of a local reporter while saying he thought he had not had enough time to speak. He adjusted his hearing aid, fidgeted with a bright red tie emblazoned with “We the people.”

Darting across the room for another interview, Mr. Gravel said: “I get too angry. I have to work on that.”

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Robert Chapman

GRAVEL REFUSES TO GROVEL

Just as generals fight new wars with old wars strategies, it seems some activists can't get into the next phase of the struggle.

The American public is convinced that the War in Iraq is wrong and that we need to get out.

The focus now is on who can lead the nation into a foreign policy that is tough enough to protect us from our enemies, nuanced enough to help our friends and soft enough to keep us from inadvertantly making new enemies.

Gravel's combativeness does not foreshadow a Presidency devoted to healing. 

Where the heck was he in 02 when he could have made a difference?

Six of the seven Democrats running for President have been conciliators and are trying to establish platforms of national unity and healing.

Ironically, the darlings of peace activists, Kucinich and Gravel are not among them.

 

by rchapman (21 articles, 0 quicklinks, 107 comments) on Saturday, April 28, 2007 at 12:14:44 PM
 



Teilhard

GIVE ME A BREAK, ROBERT ~

" Six of the seven Democrats running for President have been conciliators and are trying to establish platforms of national unity and healing."

Give me a break, Robert ~ 70% of the American public are rightfully fed up with this administration, this illegal occupation and the gelded Donkeys who refuse to stand up to the President, Vice President and their crime syndicate.

Gravel was a fresh voice who resonates with an alienated electorate who desperately want to hear a voice of truth. He may not be the perfect candidate but atleast he has the courage to be a voice of honest dissent ~ where honest dissent is sadly lacking.

As such, he was the only true dissenting patriot, with the exception of the very ambitious and suspect Kucinich, on a stage of self absorbed , carefully manicured and posturing politicians.

Allen L Roland

by teilhard (459 articles, 0 quicklinks, 84 comments) on Saturday, April 28, 2007 at 1:46:16 PM
 


Rev MVG

Yes, the momentum is key here

The Winner by Default at the Democratic Debates

By the looks of this web blog,there are maybe a thousand of us at MOST.

THAT is not going to be enough for anything.

It really comes as no surprise though, to see just how few people really have a complete open clue about the true nature of the issues we face in our government and our world.

Mike Gravel is the only person I've heard besides Olbermann who has ever exhibited any emotion about these horrors we're faced with.

THEY ARE HORRORS !!

Calm cool collected photo ops are NOT going to do it.

Blow dried $400 hair cuts are just an insult to humanity.

The rest of the contenders on that stage remembered their speeches rather well,

while Mike didn't have to remember anything.

He KNOWS IT !!

There is a BIG difference between reciting a role in a play,

and enacting your own personal knowledge.

The BEST WE can do now is post our little hearts out all over the net, because without US, the few, the wise, the informed;

Mr. G can't get through the big bucks brigade that's going

to dominate the field ( again )

I watched and watched and with the smallest of time allowances, and the least number of appearances, you stole the show, and sent the kids home with empty lunch boxes.

The Presidency is not a place for Howdy Doody, Alfalfa in long pants, Tupperware Gerbals, Cowboys, Movie Stars, or wimps. The maturity and wisdom of hard years, and hard work, coupled to strength of character, personality and personal power are what it's going to take.

You have these traits inherent in your natural matter of factness, and no amount of polish, recitation, or smooth facade can equal the requirements that are needed for this most important time.

Your clarity and admonition of the war machine, the illusive non-existent threat from fabricated enemies, and your apropo remark about " How the hell did they get here?"

was spot on and set you ahead from the start.

I want a president who says, " Hey !! I'm here !! I'm not a potted plant !! "

RIGHT ON !!

 

 

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Reverend Michael Valentine Goldsun

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by 911PNACplot (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 20 comments) on Saturday, April 28, 2007 at 7:33:04 PM
 



Teilhard

Right on , Rachel

Right on, Rachel ~ you nailed it. I increasingly feel that the American people will not settle for anything less than integrity for their President in 2008.

Particularly, after watching Cheney and Bush shred the Constitution as well as our principles and moral values as a country.

My dream ticket is Gore/Feingold but Gravel has picked up the torch of integrity with rightful anger so let's hope he continues to wave it with enthusiasm and fervor ~

I'm hearing a distant growing rumble and it sounds like ~ We Like Mike !

Allen L Roland

 

by teilhard (459 articles, 0 quicklinks, 84 comments) on Saturday, April 28, 2007 at 9:56:55 PM
 


carl

Mass Consciousness

What will it take for the masses to awaken enough to take seriously  a Gravel or a Kucinich?  Unfortunately, it appears that there will have to be much more violence and loss of lives and overwhelming poverty and disease on huge scales before we wake up to reality.  And so it is.

by aloha (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 96 comments) on Saturday, April 28, 2007 at 10:51:50 PM
 



Teilhard

You got it, Aloha

it appears that there will have to be much more violence and loss of lives and overwhelming poverty and disease on huge scales before we wake up to reality.

You got it, Aloha ~ the masses need to be shocked before they demand change ~ and , if I don't miss my guess, that will happen relatively soon.

Allen L Roland

by teilhard (459 articles, 0 quicklinks, 84 comments) on Saturday, April 28, 2007 at 11:06:29 PM
 


media monarchy

video of the gravel smackdown

if you'd like to see it again (and again) go here for the video...

media monarchy

by mediamonarky (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 comments) on Saturday, April 28, 2007 at 11:09:17 PM
 



Teilhard

OR GO HERE ~

http://  www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gMlHv2lDqA 

All his comments condensed into a seven minute video ~ courtesy of YouTube.com

Allen L Roland

by teilhard (459 articles, 0 quicklinks, 84 comments) on Saturday, April 28, 2007 at 11:21:47 PM
 


Bill Tower

Sell the Sizzle...There IS no 'beef'!

>>>>>

"The masses never revolt of their own accord, and they never revolt merely because they are oppressed. Indeed, so long as they are not permitted to have standards of comparison, they never even become aware that they are oppressed."

--Ignorance is Strength,

George Orwell>----------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

The two most interesting candidates (Kucinich and Gravel) get little or no airtime....and seldom even a mention when the media concentrate their energies on turning up dirt, commenting on the 'horse race', and being on the alert for any kind of social or verbal faux pas that might be woven into the prevailing personal narratives that 'define' the candidates.

It seems like candidates are getting 'cagier' all the time...learning not to say or do anything controversial for fear of offending one demographic or another.

 

Duelling 'marketing professionals'....that's what this experiment in democracy has brought us.

by JosephHill (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 comments) on Sunday, April 29, 2007 at 11:56:58 AM
 



Teilhard

Have faith, Joseph

Have faith, Joseph ~ Gravel is the real deal and can make a difference if they allow him to remain on the big stage. Kucinich is stale bread ~ Gravel is fresh from the oven and let's hope he doesn't get eaten alive ;-)

Allen L Roland

by teilhard (459 articles, 0 quicklinks, 84 comments) on Sunday, April 29, 2007 at 1:56:07 PM
 

 

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