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June 1, 2007 at 05:26:50

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The Hidden Message Behind the TB Media "Scare".

by Alessandro Machi     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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Isn't it scandalous to suddenly make such a HUGE Media Publicity Scapegoat out of one person who flew to various places around the world when they had TB? Are we to believe that in the last 30 years and millions of airline flights that NOBODY has ever flown before who had TB?

Is it now evident that in the near future all airline passengers will have to be "tested" for communicable diseases just prior to boarding an airplane?  If the Media TB Terror Alert didn't convince you that your rights to move around the United States and other countries as well have now been further compromised, just wait until terrorists simply annoint their own with communicable diseases and send them merrily around the world to contaminate a ton more people than a bomb can maim. 

A whole new industry, one that "tests" people for communicable diseases right before boarding a plane may have just been born, and all it took was the Media's public outing and persecution of one American Citizen to do it.  Has some business entity used the U.S. Media to ratchet up the demand for their own medical testing product?  

Uh oh, maybe it is time to suppress the media.  It truly looks like we're damned if we do suppress the media, and damned if we don't.

 

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Professor Emeritus Peter BagnoloProfessor Bagnolo is a Renaissance man: Cultural Anthropologist, Architectural designer, painter, writer, novelist, theologian. As a child prodigy, abed with polio for almost two years, with an off the charts IQ, reading at the graduate level by 5th grade, offered an opportunity to skip three grades at age 8.Later He was a recipient of an Art Institute scholarship at age 11, a Ford Foundation Fellowship in Anthropology and in Painting and a merit scholarship in art, and was appointed a Graduate ...

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Alessandro ...

And they may instead of "testing" inject poisons into the veins of those who oppose the Bush Fascist Regime.

Just because you and I are paranoid, doesn't mean they still aren't out there trying to get us all. They just murdered 665,000 Iraqi's and maimed 1,100,000 on a simple lie.

You may be onto something, and even if you are not, bringing up even the most bizarre and sinister plot ideas is not a bad idea, if it keeps the waning Dems awake.

I am afraid, however, that the battle is lost. The Nancy Pelosi's of America, have pinned up their pigtails, grabbed their jump ropes and dollies and have run-off to a tea party with Raggedy Anne and Raggedy Andy, and then they are going to do each other's hair. Isn't they all so cute and Clueless? They make Alisha Silverstone in the Film Clueless look like a genius.

Keep writing and brainstorming, I like your thought process, it is very much needed in an era in which the most outrageous and unbelievable fictions turn out to be reality, like people actually believing the WMD fiasco. Making leaps of Credulity flies in the face of Rovian Evil.

Hitler, The Bushites God, along with The Flip side of George Orwell's 1984 would be and is proud of the Bushites, Tell a Lie so Big That only the brightest will reject it in a nation as dumbed-down as the USA and Nazi Germany.

And please note, I not being sarcastic, I meant what I said, above.

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1311 comments) on Friday, June 1, 2007 at 9:37:07 AM
 


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."    --Theodore Roosevelt      My favorite quote, currently anyway.  All American's should memorize it!         
judeedee"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."    --Theodore Roosevelt      My favorite quote, currently anyway.  All American's should memorize it!         

Cute and Clueless

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I just posted a comment regarding your article, but it was REALLY in response to this comment, yours.    In case you are confused, I am attempting to clarify it for you.  Sorry for not replying correctly.  I hope you get the message, the point I was trying to make, though.  Here is the part I was referring to:

 

I am afraid, however, that the battle is lost. The Nancy Pelosi's of America, have pinned up their pigtails, grabbed their jump ropes and dollies and have run-off to a tea party with Raggedy Anne and Raggedy Andy, and then they are going to do each other's hair. Isn't they all so cute and Clueless? They make Alisha Silverstone in the Film Clueless look like a genius.

(see pink background, username jde1952)

by judeedee (0 articles, 11 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 29 comments) on Friday, June 1, 2007 at 7:09:32 PM
 


Aging bleeding heart liberal who continues to believe in justice and the goodness of some people. I always have hope in a better fairer tomorrow. I do not understand the greed motivation,but I know it is seductive and pervasive.
cluelessflAging bleeding heart liberal who continues to believe in justice and the goodness of some people. I always have hope in a better fairer tomorrow. I do not understand the greed motivation,but I know it is seductive and pervasive.

Out of Sight Out of Mind

Drug resistant Tuberculosis has been around at least 20 years. If a patient does not finish his regular medication regime and fails to follow thru then the bacillus regroups and become drug resistant. Remember when we had public health offices as part of the neighborhood clinic   systems. Well everything went private, under Reagan's budget cuts for health care and there is no profit in running down infected patients and making sure they finish the drug course. They stopped mandatory testing for health care workers and food servers and anyone who might meet a lot of people in public. Not cost effective. And besides common wisdom is that only alcoholics and sick people are susceptible. Now this is not true but then actions speak louder than words. Out of sight out of mind.

by cluelessfl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 184 comments) on Friday, June 1, 2007 at 10:46:12 AM
 


Middle aged guy.
Alessandro MachiMiddle aged guy.

What I find so intriguing

Thanks for the feedback, it is appreciated. 

I just now found the following quote, and I'm pretty certain it came after my original editorial had already been submitted.

"At a time when airline passengers have to discard shampoo bottles in the airport security line, Dr. Wenzel said, “We don’t have a simple sort of wand at the airport to wave to say, ‘You have tuberculosis.’ It really counts on the responsibility of the individual.” "


Imagine you are talking on your cell phone (and I don't advocate talking and driving) and after an hour of talking you come to find out that 20 police cars have been following you (without their sirens blasting) and there are several helicopters circling above as well....

I think the media over played it's hand in this manner, especially when one considers he was on his honeymoon and his was wife hasn't contracted anything.

Rather than this story being about his traveling when infected with TB, I think about his poor wife.  Apparently she doesn't have a right to know about his TB,  even after they are married and on their honeymoon!  Now that is an angle of intrigue worth investigating, but a private one nonetheless.

On the one hand I am glad the situation was treated seriously, but on the other, bigger hand, the media kind of portrayed this guy as a fugitive from justice and I think many of us sort of followed along like it was a late breaking car chase that we are supposed to follow until the driver is apprehended.  I stopped watching pretty when I realized there was an unwarranted sensationalism going on.

by Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments) on Friday, June 1, 2007 at 11:30:05 AM
 


blue collar worker/activist
mike wygantblue collar worker/activist

MY OPINION

Is that the media latched on to this so they won't have to report on the economy coming to a screeching halt, or the absolute astonishing testimony of James Comey, the ex- dep. AG who described Gonzo's midnight run to Ashcroft's hospital room. It's all about distracting us from what might anger their boss.....BUSH.  Now you've given them another idea! (kidding)

by mike wygant (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 287 comments) on Friday, June 1, 2007 at 2:44:44 PM
 


blue collar worker/activist
mike wygantblue collar worker/activist

AH-HAH

And today we discover even more reason to distract us. John Conyers meets with Greg Palast to get some "missing" e-mails, and suddenly Tim Griffin RESIGNS. Dan Bartlett also steps down, probably because he sees the coming reckoning facing the 'pugs.

by mike wygant (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 287 comments) on Friday, June 1, 2007 at 9:24:58 PM
 


Middle aged guy.
Alessandro MachiMiddle aged guy.

Distraction theory,

The distraction theory is interesting but I'm wondering if someone high up at a news channel saw this story as "compelling" because so many people were traveling last holiday weekend, plus it's also possible that many of the news journalists were "on vacation" with it being memorial day weekend.


Could you imagine if the TB news feeds were going into airport terminals all over the world, thousands of people would be just looking around seeing if they could find the person in the story in their airport.

yeesh.

Why not just start a national game show called 1 million dollar reward. The show puts a picture up on the screen of a person, any person, and the first person to find that person gets a million dollars!

 


by Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments) on Saturday, June 2, 2007 at 5:06:58 PM
 


Professor Bagnolo is a Renaissance man: Cultural Anthropologist, Architectural designer, painter, writer, novelist, theologian. As a child prodigy, abed with polio for almost two years, with an off the charts IQ, reading at the graduate level by 5th grade, offered an opportunity to skip three grades at age 8.Later He was a recipient of an Art Institute scholarship at age 11, a Ford Foundation Fellowship in Anthropology and in Painting and a merit scholarship in art, and was appointed a Graduate ...

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Professor Emeritus Peter BagnoloProfessor Bagnolo is a Renaissance man: Cultural Anthropologist, Architectural designer, painter, writer, novelist, theologian. As a child prodigy, abed with polio for almost two years, with an off the charts IQ, reading at the graduate level by 5th grade, offered an opportunity to skip three grades at age 8.Later He was a recipient of an Art Institute scholarship at age 11, a Ford Foundation Fellowship in Anthropology and in Painting and a merit scholarship in art, and was appointed a Graduate ...

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JUDEE, JUDEE, JUDEE...

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JUDEE, JUDEE, JUDEE...

First of all Mr. Machi didn't write that I did-I Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo. Instant proof that your reading comprehension is near zero and that you cannot even figure out how to attach a comment.

Had you taken one of my classes in critical analysis, popular among intelligent women, or had you taken a class in Shakespeare, or even in reading, you may have stumbled upon something those with a sense of humor and a working intellect, already know. Or had you done due-diligence and read thoroughly all of my articles, or Googled me, your slander would have stuck in your throat. It is people like you who slander sans knowing a damned thing about whom they are slandering that are in the last analysis fools and end up in court fighting slander lawsuits. Also it may interest you to know that far more women take my classes than men.

I am not going to reiterate my work through congressmen (Yes they were men, slanderer) for legislation for equal pay for women and equal rights. Or my work as a labor union BA in getting the first female construction workers on board in Chicago. The SATIRE was (and this is something I would never have had to explain to my HONOR students, or my seven year old), comparing N. Pelosi to a CHILD, (and she as a female would then have been a little girl, not a boy) playing house, in a world of grownups. Grown ups, see that is when most people with IQ's above that of avocado, read something and comprehend it without Cliff Notes. You must have just gone through a divorce, because your misuse of men is sprouting all over you with your insensitive comments about a male you don't even know.

You see, and erroneously at that, minor and incorrectly, details, where more diligent people see the big picture. Next time you read my stuff have an adult help interpret it for you. Oh, and maybe become courageous and use your real name like the Big Boys and Girls do, instead of hiding behind a silly "Nickname". You owe an apology, at the very least. But in an ideal world people who don't "get-it" (reading comprehension) don't write slanderous letters to people they don't know. They just read or not and leave the analysis to those who know what they are doing.

Slander is a breaking of the 8th Commandment, in case you are capable of comprehending that a God exists.

Secondly, if you are back in college, I hope you, Judee, find an enlightened Prof who can at least teach you due-diligence or how to read properly, and a proper respect for the rights of others, because you see, you are not completely anonymous and you have just acted like a Swift-Boating, Fascist-Neo-con, whose life's is Slander. Oh, and why not write an article so you can be the target instead of the unfair attacker?

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1311 comments) on Saturday, June 2, 2007 at 8:09:52 AM
 


A native Californian, Jan Baumgartner is a freelance writer dividing her time between surviving in Maine and living in Mexico. Her background includes scriptwriting, comedy writing for the Northern California Emmy Awards, and travel writing for The New York Times. She has worked as a grant writer for the non-profit sector in the fields of academia, AIDS, and wildlife conservation and anti-poaching for NGO's in the U.S. and Africa. Her articles and essays have appeared in numerous online and pri...

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Jan BaumgartnerA native Californian, Jan Baumgartner is a freelance writer dividing her time between surviving in Maine and living in Mexico. Her background includes scriptwriting, comedy writing for the Northern California Emmy Awards, and travel writing for The New York Times. She has worked as a grant writer for the non-profit sector in the fields of academia, AIDS, and wildlife conservation and anti-poaching for NGO's in the U.S. and Africa. Her articles and essays have appeared in numerous online and pri...

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more of the same

As one of the editors, I received the email regarding the flagging of one of the above comments. It stands as is -- as the correction has been made. However, in reading these comments, I have noticed an increase of nasty attacks -- by both writers and commentators alike - that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think this increased "bullying" is not only ugly, but not necessarily good for the site. Just my opinion. But, there has been quite a bit of misogynist rhetoric, and other bashing as well, and I've noticed a trend of women (and some men, too) being scrutinized or unjustly attacked if they don't necessarily agree with the opinions of the authors, and other commentators. This is an issue that I raised with other editors recently and following a "surge" of articles that were purely about hatemongering - and of one specific group. That, coupled with a few writers and commentators, being overly defensive if their opinions or writing has hailed criticism, constructive or otherwise, has cast at times, a juvenile or rather unprofessional shadow on a site and forum that should be a place where readers want "to go" -- not where they will be attacked and called names. This, we can find right outside our doors.

As one fellow editor said, this site should not be about name-calling - we're better than that.

Lastly, it's always good - especially if you're attacking someone or challenging their little gray cells - to make sure you've spellchecked your copy. It's far more impressive.

 

by Jan Baumgartner (54 articles, 138 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 260 comments) on Sunday, June 3, 2007 at 6:41:28 PM
 


Middle aged guy.
Alessandro MachiMiddle aged guy.

The correction has not been made.

I won't even repost the original quote because then I'm just propogating it. Just because it was corrected in another post means absolutely nothing to the post in which the original misdirected comment remains.


I'd rather not have my name dragged through the mud if the reason it's being dragged through the mud was a mistake.  Just because the mistake was acknowledged later on does nothing to rectify where the original error occurred.

I am happy to live by the same rules, if I ever were to make a mistake in describing an event or a person associated with an event then I would welcome the opportunity to either retract or subtract the actual original statement if that is what the person who was libeled, would like.


by Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments) on Sunday, June 3, 2007 at 6:58:59 PM
 


Middle aged guy.
Alessandro MachiMiddle aged guy.

I am the commentator

Mr. Baumgartner, 

As the original commentator of the editorial please show up above where I was rude in any manner to anyone at any time.  I am at the moment shocked again as I reread your "verdict".  Rather than clear up the first acknowledged mistake, it's as if you've piled on ANOTHER accusation my way.

If I have been polite and respectful up above (and I believe I have been), then this is not the place to be commenting on how commentators have been behaving since it that assertion becomes associated with me. 


by Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments) on Sunday, June 3, 2007 at 7:11:48 PM
 


A native Californian, Jan Baumgartner is a freelance writer dividing her time between surviving in Maine and living in Mexico. Her background includes scriptwriting, comedy writing for the Northern California Emmy Awards, and travel writing for The New York Times. She has worked as a grant writer for the non-profit sector in the fields of academia, AIDS, and wildlife conservation and anti-poaching for NGO's in the U.S. and Africa. Her articles and essays have appeared in numerous online and pri...

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Jan BaumgartnerA native Californian, Jan Baumgartner is a freelance writer dividing her time between surviving in Maine and living in Mexico. Her background includes scriptwriting, comedy writing for the Northern California Emmy Awards, and travel writing for The New York Times. She has worked as a grant writer for the non-profit sector in the fields of academia, AIDS, and wildlife conservation and anti-poaching for NGO's in the U.S. and Africa. Her articles and essays have appeared in numerous online and pri...

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Dear Alex

To clarify my above comment, and as explained via our email exchange, my comment has nothing to do with you OR your article.  My views are regarding the flagging of a readers' comment, followed by additional reader comments -- and based on their exchange.  Again, please note that your article is not being attacked here - at least not by me.  My response is due to the above mean-spirited tit-for-tat, and the unnecessary name-calling and innuendo, by your readers, not you.

Thanks, Ms. Jan Baumgartner

 

by Jan Baumgartner (54 articles, 138 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 260 comments) on Sunday, June 3, 2007 at 7:40:59 PM
 


Middle aged guy.
Alessandro MachiMiddle aged guy.

It depends what "is" is...ha ha

Your use of the word commentator threw me off.  You were using the word commentator to describe those making comments to the original article whereas I thought you were referring to anyone who writes original editorials for oped news.


I kind of see the author as being the commentator and those who respond as being either the commentors or the respondents.  I'm still not very thrilled with seeing my name associated with something I did not write. Yes it was it was later acknowledged that I did not say it but so many people just skim posts they may not get that far.

by Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments) on Sunday, June 3, 2007 at 8:45:27 PM
 


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."    --Theodore Roosevelt      My favorite quote, currently anyway.  All American's should memorize it!         
judeedee"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."    --Theodore Roosevelt      My favorite quote, currently anyway.  All American's should memorize it!         

I really mixed things up!

Rob,

I must have been extremely tired yesterday when I included a reply to a "comment"er, while replying to an article by Allesandro Machi.  I absolutley made a BIG mistake by refering to him (Mr. Machi) when I was speaking to another person posting a comment to the TB Scare article.  So sorry.  I will NEVER do that again.  Major mistake, I know.

I have already written to Allesandro Machi and expressed my sincere apologies for the mistake (mistake is putting it mildly!)  I don't know how I let myself be so careless.  It will not happen again.

I only hope, now, that we can get back to the issues at hand.  I love and appreciate having this venue to read great oped pieces and articles, as well as express our own thoughts publicly.  I hope I have not damaged that in any way.  Let me know what to do, and I will do it.

Judy DeRosa

by judeedee (0 articles, 11 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 29 comments) on Monday, June 4, 2007 at 1:41:55 AM
 


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."    --Theodore Roosevelt      My favorite quote, currently anyway.  All American's should memorize it!         
judeedee"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."    --Theodore Roosevelt      My favorite quote, currently anyway.  All American's should memorize it!         

Alessasandro and the "TB Scare"

I sincerely apologize for carelessly including a response to a commentor while responding to YOUR article.  I absolutely was NOT speaking to YOU, or about YOUR article even though I said the name "Machi".  That was so stupid and careless.  The negative comments about mysoginy were being directed to another post on your article.

I also apologize to OPEd News for causing all the stir in response to my comment (to the commentor).  I didn't realize I was being so "slanderous" when speaking of mysogynistic rhetoric.  Evidently more than a couple people thought I was.

I do believe that my reaction to his "satire" was not inappropriate.  In retrospect, however, I have learned a lesson.  That is not to give attention or validity to those kinds of public statements.  Although it is difficult not to. 

He has called me infantile, haveing the mind of an "avocado", not being deep enough to comprehend the depth of his creative writing.  If so, that's fine, I don't care to go there, anyway.

Your article on the TB scare is what got my attention, and it was refreshing to consider your possible theory.  While writing my response to your article, I read above to PP's comment, which twisted my reply's to you both.  I meant nothing slanderous or negative towards you or your article.  Maybe I was just tired, or whatever, but that's no excuse.  I really screwed up, and NO, I've never done that before.

This does not make me mentally retarded, or whatever PP said.  I made a major mistake, I am only human.  And I want to clarify my blunder.

Sincerely,

JUDY

by judeedee (0 articles, 11 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 29 comments) on Monday, June 4, 2007 at 1:03:06 AM
 


Middle aged guy.
Alessandro MachiMiddle aged guy.

Hi Judy, Thanks Rob...

Hi Judy, I just wanted to let you know that I was never mad at in you in the least.  Thanks Rob, I think you created a King Solomon type of solution.  And finally, I have learned that commentor is not a word......but shouldn't it be?

by Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments) on Monday, June 4, 2007 at 8:25:34 PM
 

 

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