Then Clinton - who is way over time - told a story about her friend Madeline Albright going to europe and seeing American flags that people in the Soviet Union had saved for decades even though they were forbidden. People said they loved America. "I want to be the president that restores that feeling around the world" (Loud applause).
Clinton never mentioned the point Ted Koppel reported last week and Bill Richardson raised here yesterday that she intends to have the occupation of Iraq still going at the end of her second term, should she be elected.
David Swanson is the author of the upcoming book "Daybreak: Undoing the Imperial Presidency and Forming a More Perfect Union" by Seven Stories Press and of the introduction to "The 35 Articles of Impeachment and the Case for Prosecuting George W. Bush" published by Feral House and available at Amazon.com. Swanson holds a master's degree in philosophy from the University of Virginia. He has worked as a newspaper reporter and as a communications director, with jobs including press secretary for Dennis Kucinich's 2004 presidential campaign, media coordinator for the International Labor Communications Association, and three years as communications coordinator for ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Swanson is Co-Founder of AfterDowningStreet.org, creator of ConvictBushCheney.org and Washington Director of Democrats.com, a board member of Progressive Democrats of America, the Backbone Campaign, and Voters for Peace, a member of the legislative working group of United for Peace and Justice, and convener of the accountability and prosecution working group of United for Peace and Justice.
Wicked witch of the South ( and stupid too) and coprophagia.
'Then Clinton - who is way over time - told a story about her friend Madeline Albright going to Europe and seeing American flags that people in the Soviet Union had saved for decades even though they were forbidden. People said they loved America. "I want to be the president that restores that feeling around the world" (Loud applause).'
F&%CK this witch and Madeleine too.
It is amazing what we can hear now from all those howling witches like Hillary and Allbright ( and people swallow that crap?) Someone really believes that stupidity that someone would store the US flag and it was forbidden in the USSR to do that? In the USSR you could store any flag you wanted except for the Nazi flags and maybe some of the former nationalist flags. We had a USA flag in the international room of our K-10 school for God's sake! Flags of all countries were regularly put out on many international events. People collected flags. Oh, boy a Senator, for goodness sake spits venom and talks nonsense and no one tells that witch to shut up. She quotes another witch, the one responsible for the Kosovo and Iraq sanctions and again- no one says anything. What a horrible coprophagia!
Hey, people wake up! That coven will not help you. They make their own brew. Stop eating poop!
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Mark Sashine (55 articles, 19 quicklinks, 256 diaries, 3701 comments)
on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 at 8:23:50 AM
The way I was raised in the U.S., it seems perfectly plausible that American flags would have been hidden in Russia. If you lived in Russia and know differently, please write an oped editorial and educate us.
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Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments)
on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 at 12:43:34 PM
I do not think I have to educate people, adults, even if they claim that is how the picture was presented to them. Ignorance is no excuse. There was a plenty of materiel in the US always describing life in other countries truthfully. Take John Reed's Ten Days That Shook The World" for instance. That is what free information is for and the US people enjoyed the access unprecedented. Thus people could always find out the real thing. Allso, can you really believe as an adult that in Russia or any other place for that matter someone would forbid having some flag at home unless there is a direct warlike confrontation? Maybe that is the US experience here?
Not only the US flag was not forbidden but US history was studied extensively with no bias, US writers were translated ( Mark Twain, for instance was translated in full, there were also numerous movies) etc. etc. I knew who Lincoln was when I was 13 years old. I doubt if the Hillary knows anything about Russian leadership except for what Madeleine told her. BTW it was Mark Twain who said that Arkansas had the stupidest people in the US as if he knew about Hillary.
To use a deliberate lie and slander for a cheap shot in the crowd is the Hillary's style all along, no matter what she uses. I stay for my comment above.
And BTW in my diary entries under Mark Sashine there is a plenty of 'educational' stuff comparing Bolshevicks and Bushevicks, who won the WWII, etc. All of that respectful and with love to the US. But I am not letting it go.
Thanks
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Mark Sashine (55 articles, 19 quicklinks, 256 diaries, 3701 comments)
on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 at 1:20:56 PM
I do not think I have to educate people, adults, even if they claim that is how the picture was presented to them. Ignorance is no excuse........
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The above sounds unnecessarily defensive to me. I encouraged you to tell us your story, that's all I did.
When the Wall existed between East and West Germany, school teachers on the East Side would ask "innocent" questions of their students to see what television shows they were watching. If the children made the mistake of talking about a television show that was from the West, the parents would be visited by police. While that story is not about Russia, it does demonstrate a certain desire to prevent intermingling of differing political views.
The U.S. has probably behaved in the same way when it came to how much tolerance there was for other political belief systems in the United States.
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Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments)
on Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 2:39:15 AM
I agree, she is a wicked witch...Maybe the fact that her and hubby are defendants, along with a lot of other high government officials, in a Rico Lawsuit filed in May in Fargo District court, could hurt or hopefully sink her chances to win....But the case probably wont make it to court in time, and the MSM will never cover something like a REAL court case involving those responsible for numerous false flag events like the OKC bombing and 9-11, I guess we will have to wait and see if something else trips her up along the way to her coronation. See the text of the preamble to this lawsuit at www.hawkscafe.com
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wxman2001 (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 118 comments)
on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 at 1:28:24 PM
I was in the front row, so I didn't see all the action, but it seemed, that when the booing happened, it was about the Iraqi failures and unwillingness to do the job.
There WAS plenty of heckling-- Medea Benjamin and her code pink corps were very effective in unnerving Clinton and Pelosi, and getting a hube amount of attentioin from the photographers.
But there were no out and out loud booing events like those that occurred last year. at least none I heard, outside of the response to the mention of the Iraqi failure. Maybe I read it wrong, but that's my take.
Overall, it seemed that the crowd was much MORE receptive and friendly to her than last year, when the response was very tepid. A year on the hustings has polished Hillary a great deal.
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Rob Kall (890 articles, 4057 quicklinks, 350 diaries, 1918 comments)
on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 at 10:11:34 PM
Hey Panurg,
You might have been able to have an American flag in the Soviet Union, but I got caught with a Soviet flag in my room in college and got thirty days before my dad could get me out (deep south). That was the start of my "red file." As to who won WWII, it was clearly the Soviets, where 90% of the German forces were concentrated, while the good allies England and America put off opening the Western Front so more communists would be killed.
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W.M.L. (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 439 comments)
on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 at 10:32:07 PM
I apologize for my defensiveness, sorry. Stryker, thanks kindly. I suspected as much. Looks like the 'red' experience helped you to get the truthful information. I thank you again.
Alessandro, the East/West German experience I believe did happen as you described. But it was not ' my story' I was referring too. I was appalled ( as we all should be) by the blatant opportunism and cynical arrogance of Hillary. BTW, what is so special about US flag? What if it was British or French? Hillary played on the most low- level arrogance of the audience, that irrational feeling of superiority and she got her response. That's what made me mad. It should make mad anyone of us because what we see is that the person who claims to fight against bigotry uses it right away when she needs it.
I thank you both, folks.
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Mark Sashine (55 articles, 19 quicklinks, 256 diaries, 3701 comments)
on Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 7:02:17 AM
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