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June 21, 2007 at 06:12:39

New Study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 Hit the Pentagon

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"Don't be taken in by photos showing damage to the second floor or those taken after the upper floors collapsed, which happened 20-30 minutes later," Fetzer said. "In fact, debris begins to show up on the completely clean lawn in short order, which might have been dropped from a C-130 that was circling above the Pentagon or placed there by men in suits who were photographed carrying debris with them." The most striking is a piece from the fuselage of a commercial airliner, which is frequently adduced as evidence.

James Hanson, a newspaper reporter who earned his law degree from the University of Michigan College of Law, has traced that debris to an American Airlines 757 that crashed in a rain forest above Cali, Columbia in 1995. "It was the kind of slow-speed crash that would have torn off paneling in this fashion, with no fires, leaving them largely intact." Fetzer has been so impressed with his research he has invited Hanson to submit his study to Scholars for consideration for publication on its web site, 911scholars.org.

"The Pentagon has become a kind of litmus test for rationality in the study of 9/11," Fetzer said. "Those who persist in maintaining that a Boeing 757 hit the building are either unfamiliar with the evidence or cognitively impaired. Unless," he added, "they want to mislead the American people. The evidence is beyond clear and compelling. It places this issue 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon."

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CB Brooklyn

Other information some may find useful

vidya If a 767 crashes into a building, is its plastic nosecone going to pop out the other side? The groundbreaking 9/11 film "September Clues" offers NEW analysis and is a must watch for anyone interested in the real truth of 9/11:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8045542387672451515

 

Check out this 10 minute analysis video of newscasters on different NYC channels. How come the newscasters on channels 5 and 11 are using the same phrases on a developing story on live TV?

911 Octopus 8: Media Perps Unmasked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_ySSJ_L6Zs

 

Former Professor of Mechanical Engineering Dr Judy Wood has done excellent and detailed analysis of the World Trade Center destruction. All she wants is for people to look at the data! Check out her site and see the most obvious evidence for directed energy weapon usage at the WTC there is:

http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/dirt1.html
http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/StarWarsBeam1.html

And don't be fooled by others in the "truth movement", such as Steven Jones and Greg Jenkins, who try to discredit Judy Wood and distract people from looking at the evidence.

Believe me, it's no coincidence that both Jones and Jenkins have ties to Los Alamos where directed energy weapon research is conducted!

http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/Jenkins_transcript.html 

by CB_Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 27 comments) on Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 9:00:23 AM
 


CB Brooklyn

Judy Wood's Site and Web Browser Problems

It has recently been discovered that some users with Internet Explorer have difficulty accessing Dr Wood's site. She is planning to move her site soon, but in the meantime please use an alternate browser, such as Firefox.

by CB_Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 27 comments) on Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 9:53:47 AM
 



Tony Forest

Thanks CB

for puttin up the link to "September Clues".

It's quite obvious no 757 hit the Pentagon and the area chosen for the impact makes for a story on its own. Basic knowledge in aviation or even a few drops of common sense will tell you the alleged appoach pattern could not have been held because of the missing cushion of air needed to keep an aircraft afloat. The alleged manouvers the alleged aircraft made prior to the alleged (friggin broken record!) crash are far from anything anyone short of the best pilot on earth would have been able to accomplish. But we moved our focus away from the Pentagon in fear we were being set up. Thanks to these new conclusions we can now safely say the setup has failed ;

No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon

Interesting title, Jim. You know how people like to take things out of context and mis-quote. Well done.

As sceptical as ever, Curtis 

by rossini (4 articles, 5 quicklinks, 290 comments) on Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 11:41:59 AM
 


Joe Plummer

Re: Pentagon Strike

I have long suspected it was a global hawk (perhaps equipped with a missile), that actually struck the Pentagon. Per this article: http://stopthelie.com/doug_thompson.html

...Yes, I know some of you who are in the Judy Wood camp (No Planes hit the towers, No Bombs, Directed Energy Beams) will find some of what I've written irritating. Try to get over it. At least on this one point, we're in some kind of agreement.

by stopthelie (7 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 comments) on Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 2:34:49 PM
 


Alessandro Machi

If No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon, then

to me that makes the official collapse of both WTC buildings, if I am recalling correctly, at 10:00 and 10:29, as being suspicious as well.


Kind of like they were set off to down on the hour and on the half hour.
The odds of both buildings going down basically on the half hour would be around 1 out of a 100.  (I'm allowing for a 3 minute span, 1 minute prior to one minute after for the top of the hour, and the same three minute span for the bottom of the hour).

So there was a 1 out of 100 chance that both buildings would collapse at such tidy times.  On the other hand. I do think it's plausible that jet fuel went down the elevator shafts that seemed to house huge wind forces which in turn would have created a fierce internal oxygen aided fire.

by Alessandro (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 52 comments) on Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 2:39:53 PM
 


meremark

When the stonewall around you falls, no need to jump ...

... anywhere to conclusions.

It is enough to agree, everyone, that the TV-made story is false. TV LIARS.

Okay, Nine Eleven Op did NOT happen as the LIARS, including NYTimes, have said ... all the ridiculous nonsense 'pancaking Towers' foolish talk.

Mission accomplished when the stonewall of LYING falls down, and everyone rejects the LIARS.

Some people may like to go on and figure out what DID happen, jump over the stonewall rubble to a conclusion they like. But they don't need a majority to agree with them. Just a majority to agree that every Official thing said so far is false, and the newspapers and TV which said it are LIARS.

BOYCOTT the newspapers and those advertisers. BOYCOTT cable TV and those sponsors. Turn OFF the LIES.

Then the rest is going to take care of itself. Give people some credit, we are not stupid babies like MassMind media treats us -- Up Yours! mainstream media LIARS, jerking us around -- we can do this, damn straight we can figure it out. Eyewitnesses who know things are going to start saying what they know. Investigators are going to bring together what they found out, and are finding. A central evidence collection and coordination group, and place, is going to come into being. Everyone in the country is going to be paying attention and asking what is the new, truer version?, once we ALL know the old Official version is LIES and the old newspaper people and old TV people are LIARS.

I little care what things are found out and what things happened, I have no set preconclusion on which I want the facts based.

I mostly care where I hear it from. I prejudge that NY Times and Associated Press all is LIES. Cable TV, even the Daily Show, all is LIES -- get a job, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, get a life, get cleaned up, you got LIARS Slime all over you working there -- and local TV and all the shock-talk-mock radio is LIES. Let me talk with real people, honest-to-goodness, in-the-flesh, real people. Even just talk on the phone, (which is the same as the internet), a real time conversation, I speak, they speak back, I speak back, they speak back ... REAL time.

AND every real person who has Bush brand government branded on their paycheck is a LIAR, shut up, we've heard enough. And that includes most of Pelosi and Reid's Congress, just more Bush brand LIARS. There are, easy, 10,000 new people in America who can fill the Big Seats in Washington, do the Big Jobs with the Big Responsibilities, and get the Big Bucks -- and do a better job than today's LIARS. Bush brand Congress and government is NOT OUR BEST people.

BUSH means LIAR. And it looks as though the BUSH FAMILY INFECTED every government-working, public-employee within fifty miles of The Fright House, including the lying Supreme Court, judges, and the Pentagon and our once-honorable military. Quit. Resign. Leave. Get out! SHAME on you'all government. EAT your damn paycheck, choke on it. Sneak away and slink away. GET OUT of our sight. GO hide under a rock the rest of your life, that's your tombstone grave marker. America DON'T WANT NO LIARS.

by Meremark (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 85 comments) on Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 3:45:53 PM
 


RCG

Meremark, IGotta Agree With Pretty Much Everytthing You Said

You nailed it - the only thing I might slightly disagree with is Jon Stewart being a liar - unless you count "lies by omission". And I think he does that because he is afraid that if he says too much he will be targeted and destroyed by the mass-media, plus the brainwashed riech wingnuts would have a field day. Perhaps, I missed your point here or I am being somewhat naive, but I think Jon Stewart is terrific and doing the best he can in this environment.

by rcg (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 65 comments) on Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 5:00:04 PM
 

 

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